Pirates Discussion: Buccos Battle Back Again

In the nine games following the All-Star break the Pittsburgh Pirates managed to score 23 total runs. In just two games against the Milwaukee Brewers the Pirates have been able to score 13 runs.

Just as with game one of the three game series, the Pirates found themselves initially at a deficit, but much earlier this time.

Tyler Beede got a spot start as the opener and only managed to last one and a third innings while giving up four earned runs. One of those runs was by way of a single given up by Dillon Peters who replaced Beede in the second.

Peters ended up pitching 2.2 innings giving up only the one inherited run.

From there the Pirates offense decided they wanted to rekindle the previous night’s magic and come back from a deficit.

Tucupita Marcano got things going in the third by leading off with a single. Two outs and then two walks later Ke’Bryan Hayes came through with bases loaded to score two runs and cut the lead in half.

From there the bullpen would go into lockdown mode again for the time being with Chase De Jong and Duane Underwood Jr. combining for three scoreless innings with three strikeouts between them.

The Pirates tied the game in the bottom of the sixth by scoring two runs between a Michael Chavis RBI double and capped off by a Marcano RBI single. Marcano celebrated his promotion from earlier in the day by going three for four on the night complete with triple to go along with his RBI single.

In the seventh they would take the lead with a Ke’Bryan Hayes single — who was then thrown out on the play at 1B after getting caught thinking of advancing to second on the throw — before Oneil Cruz delivered the big hit. And by big, I mean he hit a ball 434 ft to deep right-center that bounced off the top of the sheet metal roof of the cabana and found it’s way to the river for a two-run homerun and 7-4 lead.

Everything appeared to be going in the Pirates favor but Yerry De Los Santos couldn’t repeat Tuesday’s performance. Yerry only got two outs in the eighth while allowing four hits and a walk letting the Brewers tie the game at seven. Wil Crowe would enter and got a groundout from Andrew McCutchen to limit the damage.

After the offense went down quietly in the bottom of the eighth only managing one baserunner by way of a Jason Delay walk, Crowe took the mound again in the ninth and made quick work of the Brewers with a 1-2-3 inning.

This setup the perfect moment for Bryan Reynolds who just celebrated the birth of his second child. Coming into the game Reynolds hadn’t collected a hit since July 8th when the Pirates last played the Brewers in Milwaukee.

The now Hader-less Brewers turned to Devin Williams who got behind in the count 2-0 and threw a fastball at the top of the zone that Reynolds was clearly ready for. Reynolds showed some urgency turning on the fastball and hit it 425 ft to walk-off the game for the Buccos’ second win in a row. He would finish the game three for four while also drawing a walk.

Brewers @ Pirates

Time: 1:35 PM EST

Pirates Starter: Zach Thompson (3-8, 5.09)

Brewers Starter: Brandon Woodruff (9-3, 3.55)

Thompson Notes: Zach Thompson will be taking the mound in Thursday’s matinee and series finale for his 18th start of the season. He has had a very rough go lately allowing seven earned runs in each of his last two starts. In both starts Thompson did manage to pitch into the sixth inning which will likely be needed on Thursday after Wednesday’s bullpen game.

LINEUPS:

Pirates

Brewers

1. Christian Yelich (L) DH
2. Willy Adames (R) SS
3. Rowdy Tellez (L) 1B
4. Andrew McCutchen (R) LF
5. Kolten Wong (L) 2B
6. Hunter Renfroe (R) RF
7. Victor Caratini (S) C
8. Mike Brosseau (R) 3B
9. Jonathan Davis (R) CF

Taylor Davis is with the Pirates

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skliesen

I know the kid is gonna be widely acclaimed for doing this, and Nutting certainly acted like a fool in the photo op, but man was that so disrespectful. Perfectly symbolizes modern society norms where anyone, even kids, thinks it’s ok to disrespect another if it’s worth a bunch of likes on social media.

If I’m his parent that kid would be issuing an apology to BN today and he’d be grounded for pulling that stunt.

Cobra

Agree with most of this but I also think nutting is very comfortable with the status quo and getting his rear kissed by local chambers of commerce and charities , as if nothing at all is wrong with this Franchise – so if something like this is embarrassing to him among his peers , ie he looks like a fool like the Hurdle debacle – it’s not a bad thing.!!

roibert.kasperski

Well, The Pirates just helped get St Louis to within 1/2 game of Milwaukee. If the Cards beat the Cubs tonight, They will be tied.

The sweep got the Bucs back to 3rd place in the NL Central again.

TNBucs

Who knows what the standings will look like the last week of the season, but we end the season with six games against the Cardinals due to how the opening games were rescheduled. Hoping we can play spoilers by beating up on the Cards.

john_fluharty

I hope so too. I wonder how well we’re going to handle Q and how many times we’ll face him

roibert.kasperski

You will be seeing me posting lots of Inigo Montoya if they can screw the Cards out of the playoffs over those 6 games. 🙂

Cobra

A 3 game sweep, a good trade return for Q, yoshi gone, JVM benched AND the kid/legend with the “sell the team” shirt. The August gods are good to us 🙏🙌. LETS GO BUCS 🏴‍☠️

Last edited 4 days ago by Cobra
roibert.kasperski

LOL Another sweep of another 1st place team by the Pirates!

As Inigo Montoya once said,

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roibert.kasperski

Thank you Mr. Bush and Mr Caratini!!! Raise it!!!!

Wilbur Miller

Haha. Where have you gone Josh Hader? Cheese nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

TNBucs

To be fair, though, Williams would have probably pitched the 8th today, Hader the 9th, and whether they would have held on or not would have depended on someone else. Bush has not made a good first impression, though. But like Holderman with us, I’m writing that off to trying too hard to impress his new teammates.

Wilbur Miller

This is the Brewers. “To be fair” has no relevance here.

roibert.kasperski

Yeah, Can’t say to be fair considering one Ryan Braun is on the other side of those words……There is no “To be fair” in any sentence involving the Brewers unless it is in the context of something like “to be fair, the Brewers were screwed over……”

NMR

Boy oh boy, Davey Stearns just pooped himself.

PirateRican21

Why did he get? Like one extra 45fV prospect by not waiting until the off season?

PirateRican21

What not why, have to wear my reading glasses, can’t see the cell screen…..

bucsws2014
Iowasteel

Walk off wild pitch – just like I thought would happen.

Cobra

Ben might have handcuffed Shelton after van meter showed up in lineup after trade deadline. Jeff any chance you are able to pull our record when JvM isn’t in lineup , or doesn’t appear at all in a game ? I know it’s 2-0 post deadline 😆

bucsws2014

You can find this on B-R. Just click the player name and game logs, and it’s in a summary at top.

For JVM:
In starts: 19-27 .413
In appearances: 22-35 .385

So then you just subtract those #s from total games played (43-62 .409) and you get:
Not starting: 24-35 .407
Not appearing: 21-27 .438

Cobra

Thank you 💪

roibert.kasperski

Was anyone giving him any hugs??

kellea01

Twice today, Shelton called for an intentional walk. Both times it ended up with the bases loaded. The first time he got away with it because of a really nice play by Hayes. The second time it led to a run scoring. There are extremely few circumstances in which I would issue an intentional walk. The two today, no way.

TNBucs

Especially with Underwood on the mound who has been known to suddenly lose his control for short stretches.

roibert.kasperski

Thank you Mr. Reynolds ……

NMR

9 for 58

roibert.kasperski

Better than 8 for 58 🙂

NMR

I thought it was hilarious chappy posted that stat literally one at bat before Reynolds came through. Baseball!

chappy

Gotta work the “hidden vigorish”.

roibert.kasperski

Absolutely !!

jon6er

Shelton needs to play the lottery tonight after watching Underdog almost give up a bunch and getting away with it.

bucsws2014

They’ve got about 25 minutes to wrap this game up before the skies open.

roibert.kasperski

Thank you Mr. Gamel…..

docdon385

There are lots of things in baseball that drive me nuts but relief pitchers who can’t throw strikes are at the very top of the list just above managers who leave them in the game.

Shultzie31

Nice grab by gamel. That was getting ugly

roibert.kasperski

Dorn err Wong leaned into that on just a bit………….

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Last edited 5 days ago by roibert.kasperski
ravidesai1984

Can we dfa underwood now.

chappy

I like the aggressiveness, but not the result.

roibert.kasperski

Holderman now owes Hayes a quality beer and a nice steak dinner after this game 🙂

NMR

Young Ke might be eating better quality than Holderman can afford at this point! 😉

roibert.kasperski

That’s what a credit card is for  😂 

Last edited 5 days ago by roibert.kasperski
Shultzie31

What a play by Hayes!! Could’ve done without the “zip zap kazoo” though. Brown gets worse by the day

chappy

Hayes is SO good at 3rd!

TNBucs

Probably my favorite thing about the extension, getting to watch a defender like that for the rest of the decade.

PirateRican21

Is probably the fact that he weighs about 140 pounds.

PirateRican21

Hey Jeff if possible, could you post the ump scorecard tomorrow, this guy today has to be one of the worse I’ve seen this year, thanks!

roibert.kasperski

Of course Jerry is bad. He did call Julio Lugo Safe when Fort McHenry tagged him out 3 feet in front of home plate to cost Pittsburgh a game in the 19th……..Yes, I am still bitter……

TNBucs

Me too, but at least it led to a number of funny “Jerry says it’s safe” jokes.

PirateRican21

Come on, you have all the time in the world, just ignore your main job and your toddler, easy!

roibert.kasperski

Ump scorecard…………Tomorrow!!!! You have officially been reminded ! 😂 

docdon385

Good for Ben. I will now officially stop being critical of his hitting, for a while anyway.

chappy

Reynolds now 8-57 RISP. How is this possible?

roibert.kasperski

Good news is, Gamel picked him up 🙂

PirateRican21

It seems that every reliever we have are sinker ballers…..how that happened.

NMR

WHYGRS

Wilbur Miller

The memo was supposed to say “stinkerballers” but somebody egged up.

Danatural08

Checking BR for a couple league related stats & thought the following was worth sharing:

  • Bucs have the 2nd youngest, behind Cleveland, hitter’s average age at 26.6 yo (Yankees have the oldest average at 30.7)
  • Bucs rated 17th in HR hit, surprisingly ahead of Bos, SDP, CIN, COL, TBR, CWS, & CLE
  • Bucs have the 4th highest Caught Stealing
  • 2nd Highest Strike Outs Against (behind LAA)
  • 3rd Worst Runs per game (ahead of OAK & DET)
  • 4th highest Runs Allowed per game
  • League Average in HR allowed
  • 6th highest Walks Allowed
  • 7th youngest pitcher’s average at 27.8 (again Cleveland has the youngest average here too at 26.5)
AdministrativeSky236

I know cherry picking stats and all, but i wonder what the runs against would be without some of those huge blowouts? Though there might be enough that they dont count as outliers anymore

docdon385

Silly me. I thought I was tuning in to watch a baseball game but instead I seem to be getting a poorly done remake of The Three Stooges and sadly none of them are the slightest bit funny except to themselves apparently.

Last edited 5 days ago by docdon385
roibert.kasperski

sshhhh Whisper that!!!

roibert.kasperski

You’re jinxing him!!!

Wilbur Miller

Too late

roibert.kasperski

I know……

Iowasteel

If Davis gets into a game, the Pirates will move into the league lead in catchers played (not counting the Van Meter experience). Not quite catcherpocalypse, but moving in that direction.

PirateRican21

I like the new attitude that Hayes is displaying.

Danatural08

Taylor Davis is on the bench today, guess Heineman to DL

Danatural08

Also, Stout is up. Haven’t figured out which moves have been made

roibert.kasperski

What happened to Peters or an IL stint because they needed another RP?

Wilbur Miller

Heineman and Peters to IL. Taylor Davis and Stout called up. I don’t think a 40-man move was needed for Davis, but I’m not sure.

Wilbur Miller

What would you have thought if, in March, somebody told you, The Pirates’ catching situation will get so bad you’ll be fine with Jason Delay and Taylor Davis?

roibert.kasperski

I am good with that. Kinda ignoring the catching situation because…….2 games in a row w/o JVM in the line up……GASP!!!

SufferinBuccotash

I’m about ready to go on Bucco strike if JVM doesn’t start getting some opportunities….

PirateRican21

Wait and they won? How?

SouthernBuc

I looked at the lineup about 3 times to double and triple check he was not in the lineup – I was in disbelief.

Cobra

I wonder if cherington had the guts to have a heart to heart with Shelton after he Van Metered our first post-deadline lineup

ironmike56

Hayes stat line from last night looks good but his swing looks worse than ever. Everything is an inside out slice or shank. It shows none of the pop from his rookie year. Anybody think he is still impaired by the hand injury from last year?

ArkyWags

Agreed. It looks like a poor imitation of Jeter’s swing. Could be the hand issue still.

1979andCounting

I don’t think the extension would have happened if there was any problems whatsoever with his wrist. Bob would not approve throwing $70 mil around if there was any residual issue.

ironmike56

Actually it would be so Bob and company if they thought he was 100% recovered, made the big headline bet, but got it wrong.

b mcferren

anybody take Yoshi’s 40 man roster spot?

so long that Mason Martin can field the position, I see no reason not to give him a tryout for a few weeks

Last edited 5 days ago by b mcferren
tedwins

Chase De Jong is interesting to me, 2nd rd draft pick, good size chap, seemingly 3 decent pitches (sometimes throws change for 4th), avg K/BB ratio, concerning FIP, good or lucky 2022 WIP, controllable thru 2026, and married to Bernhard Langers daughter. If he is as competitive, and ages as well, as his father in law maybe he will be late bloomer for us🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤔🤔🤣🤣

1979andCounting

There is no biology between the two Ted……:) But I agree with your sentiments. I went out on the limb at start of season (with TNBucs) and compared his pitching style to Waino. Big stretch…..but I’m happy to have called it right (thusfar!)

roibert.kasperski

Well one can have the style of a HOF or soon to be HOF player. You can look like a star but can you execute like a star?

tedwins

👍👍👏👏

NMR

That was fun as shit!

TNBucs

I was driving home and had the radio broadcast on when Cruz hit his HR–Brown almost always gets more excited about something like that than Block but I think last night Block outdid Brown. It was fun hearing him (and I’ve thought for a while now that while he’s okay on TV he’s very good on radio).

bscat

Joe Block should spend the off-season studying Vin Scully tapes. Joe needs to speak less.

PirateRican21

Man, we have a different view of Scully, he never stop talking, he had an uncanny ability to time a story perfectly from first pitch of the inning to last out of that inning, but talking less is not something I remembered. (I live in SoCal.)

skliesen

Scully knew when to talk and when to stop talking better than anyone before or since. His love affair from early childhood of the roar of the crowd never diminished. For example, on his call of the infamous Gibson HR, he was silent for over a minute, letting the crowd noise cascade over the air waves, after he said, “It is GONE.” And of course he used that minute plus to come up with the classic line, “In a year that’s been so improbable, the impossible has happened.”

He was a genius at his craft.

chappy

Wrong start time for today’s game-should be 12:35.

b mcferren

time to start giving Tucupita some reps at first base

joebaseball

Time to put Newman at SS and Cruz time at 1B

ArkyWags

God, no. Leave Cruz alone till the off-season. Then to the outfield.

PirateRican21

Bmac, this is your third time posting this! He’ll play a ton of second now that Newman might miss time…..at second!

roibert.kasperski

Plus Madris deserves at least a look at first,

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