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Monday, December 5, 2022

Pirates Discussion: The Final Pirates Game of 2022

It feels surreal, but here we are on game 162 of the season.

The Pittsburgh Pirates had a chance to avoid 100 losses for another day, but couldn’t hold a lead against the St. Louis Cardinals.

In the bottom of the first inning, the Pirates took an early 1-0 lead on a Miguel Andújar ground out to third base.

JT Brubaker looked good through two innings keeping the Cardinals off the scoresheet. He was on a pitch limit for his final 2022 start, and would only last 2.2 innings on 47 pitches. With one out in the third and bases loaded, the Cardinals pushed across the tying run on a ground out of their own. Then, Albert Pujols line a single to center field to score two runs giving them a 3-1 lead. Bryse Wilson replaced Brubaker and got the final out without anymore damage.

In the bottom half of the third the Pirates offense went to work and took back the lead. Ji-Hwan Bae lead off the inning with a single and moved to third on a Bryan Reynolds ground rule double. Bae scored on a Dakota Hudson wild pitch to make it 3-2 that was followed by a Rodolfo Castro RBI single, Andújar RBI double, and then Jack Suwinski RBI single to make it 5-3. Two more runs would score first on a Ben Gamel RBI single and then Bae came up to bat again to hit a RBI single making it 7-3.

From there Bryse Wilson cruised through the next three innings allowing only a single. In the seventh inning things fell apart. The first three hitters of the inning would all reach base with a run scoring before Wilson was replaced by Duane Underwood Jr. He would strike out the first batter before former Bucco Corey Dickerson hit a two run double to make it 7-6. That was followed by a strike out, then a run scored on an Oneil Cruz throwing error to make it 7-7. Four runs scored to tie it with only two being earned.

Robert Stephenson and David Bednar pitched a scoreless eighth and ninth respectively, while the offense managed to get a runner to second base only once since the six-run, third inning until the ninth. The Pirates had runners on first and second with one out, but Gamel and then pinch hitter Kevin Newman were unable to push the winning run across taking the game to extras.

Chase De Jong took the tenth and let the go ahead run score on a RBI single.

Newman began at second base to begin the Pirates half of the tenth. With one out Cruz hit a 111.5 MPH single that Plinko’d off of 1B Alec Burleson and rolled just past 2B Brendan Donovan. Newman attempted to score on the deflection but was gunned down at home when Donovan quickly retrieved the ball and threw home. The play was reviewed and the call stood. Cruz stole his 11th base and moved to third on a throwing error. That brought up Reynolds who grounded out to first and ended the game for the Pirates 100th loss of the season.

Cardinals @ Pirates

Time: 4:05 PM EST

Pirates Starter: Johan Oviedo (4-3, 3.12)

Cardinals Starter: TBD

Oviedo Notes: Johan Oviedo will get the ball to finish off another long season. He gets to face his former club for the second time in a row. In his previous start against the Cardinals, Oviedo threw 103 pitches over six innings while allowing two earned runs and striking out four. Over Oviedo’s six starts for the Pirates he has had a 3.04 ERA to go with a 3.60 FIP and 4.61 xFIP. While his command escapes him at times, he’s at least shown that he should be in the conversation as a potential starter for the 2023 rotation.

LINEUPS:

Pirates

Cardinals

1. Lars Nootbaar (L) DH
2. Tommy Edman (S) SS
3. Nolan Arenado (R) 3B
4. Corey Dickerson (L) LF
5. Juan Yepez (R) 1B
6. Alec Burleson (L) RF
7. Dylan Carlson (S) CF
8. Andrew Knizner (R) C
9. Paul DeJong (R) 2B

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Raised in Cranberry Twp, PA, Jeff attended Kent State University and worked in Cleveland and Pittsburgh, before moving to New Orleans in September of 2012. His background is as an Engineering Designer, but he has always had a near unhealthy passion for Pittsburgh sports. Hockey and Baseball are his 1A and 1B, combined with his mathematical background, it's led to Jeff's desire in diving into analytics. Jeff is known as Bucs'N'Pucks in the comments, and began writing for Pirates Prospects in 2022 after contributing so many useful bits of information in the comment section.

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Wilbur Miller

Fwiw, the Pirates officially get the 16.5% shot at the top draft pick.

skliesen

Does that mean BC considers the season a success?

Wilbur Miller

Nope, results don’t matter. What matters is whether the convention center is serving good food at the lottery ceremony.

AdministrativeSky236

Who in the AFL would yinz most like to see put up a really strong performance?

skliesen

QP for me. His ability to be a strong SP for the organization is probably a bit more important to me than the others. I’m very interested to see how he performs vs the closest to a MLB lineup he’s ever seen.

Wilbur Miller

Given the upside, Davis just matters more than anybody else.

robertkasperski

Would love a Hank Vs Endy battle for behind the plate duty after there really has not been a truly great catcher for multiple seasons since Kendal. Had Martin for only 2 then Cervelli had talent and multiple years but his career was marred by injury. Would be wonderful if we suddenly have 2 guys who can be behind the plate and both appear able to play other positions so they can always have a solid catcher there.

robertkasperski

Tossup between Hank and Nicky G. You?

AdministrativeSky236

I think hank or priester, both have shown flashes/pedigree of true above average to all star potential and I would love for both of them to have a solid showing after missing significant time for injuries

patrick_kelly

Just me or does that 0 feel a hell of a lot better than a 1 considering the real promise showed down the stretch? Color me encouraged.

skliesen

Since we beat the Reds more than they beat us, does it mean we didn’t finish in last place? If so, you know what I call that? Progress!!!

Last edited 1 month ago by skliesen
robertkasperski

For all of the years that they beat us in the season series even if the shouldn’t have, yes progress. Also, I forget how long that they said it had been since the last series win against the Cards at home has been too. Progress 😁

MD78

Or you could say that we were worse than they were when facing real MLB teams. Lets call it a tie.

AdministrativeSky236

But we are undoubtedly better than the dodgers this year so

Iowasteel

62-100. Only a touch worse than I expected. There’s always next year.

b mcferren

raise it!!!

thanks for another great season shooting the shit with you fellas

AdministrativeSky236

We gotta keep shooting the shit through the offseason of course

patrick_kelly

Stay you my man.

robertkasperski
C'est fini
Esta terminado
끝났다
kkeutnassda

It is finished…….

PirateRican21
PirateRican21

1979andCounting

BNP, just want to say thanks for stepping up to the MLB club reporting. Fantastic job, day after day! Great waiver claim by Tim…..!!

ArkyWags

I was going to say our very own rule 5 Clemente-like pick up! Great job BNP!

robertkasperski

Waiver Claim or Writer to be named ??

robertkasperski

Damned fine job my friend! Always good to talk baseball with you and you add good things to talk about in what you write.

forkball

Yes, great job and thank you for doing your best to keep the ship from sinking!

PirateRican21

I’ve been oblivious to the whole Molina, Wainwright thing, but it just hit me that I might never see that happening with the Pirates. Takes Hall of Fame type players and ownership willing to keep them in place.

Anthony

The Cards average over 41k in attendance PER GAME, that’s close to 3.5M per year, and own 30% of their RSN. This is what KEEPS them a consistent winner. They can extend homegrown talent, they can trade prospects for established players, and they can be major players in FA. And when they f*ck up, it doesn’t affect them nearly as much bc there is always MORE $$$ to fix the problem.

Last edited 1 month ago by Anthony
1979andCounting

Thank God I won’t have to watch the contact play with the IF drawn in for 143 days. Will Shelton ever learn?

jon6er

Shelton’s still waiting for that awful throw that most professionals don’t make unless he’s thinking of his own guys.

bucsws2014

Not a great slide by Castillo. No real attempt at avoiding tag.

bscat

slide wide right . . . reach with left hand = score!

PirateRican21

Kind of curious to know what’s Bae average exit velocity.

PirateRican21

Yes, would love to see more of those!

bucsws2014
Last edited 1 month ago by bucsws2014
PirateRican21

Thanks BnP!

bucsws2014

< chopped liver.

PirateRican21

😁 fine, thanks!

1979andCounting

Thinking right along with you……I don’t see a bat any different than Marcano or Park. Despite his Milb numbers.

bucsws2014

Astute observation.

Bae 84.4
Marcano 84.7
Newman 85.2
Park 85.6
Castro 87.7
Castillo 89.1
Cruz 92.0

Last edited 1 month ago by bucsws2014
Anthony

I could care less about EVs with him. He doesn’t give up outs, gets on base, and can swipe a bag. At a minimum, he helps balance out this lineup and create runs.

PirateRican21

Hopefully more reps will improve that.

skliesen

Watching Bae and Cruz run from 1B to home on a gap shot is as beautiful as baseball gets.

Catch_22

I’m glad I’m not watching Diego Castillo attempt to play 1b again. What’s worse than a middle infielder trying to play the OF? A middle infielder playing 1b, who can’t field the position or hit.

chappy

No Reynolds on the last game of the year? Strange. Injured?

Wilbur Miller

Probably too much tea-leaf-reading here, but it’s interesting that Newman is in the final lineup and Gamel isn’t. Gamel will be gone as a FA, Newman is arb2. Wouldn’t be in character for the Nuttin Pirates to pay him an arb2 salary, but I’d prefer he stayed. Maybe this lineup is a sign they’ll keep him around.

Catch_22

I’m guessing because they’re facing a lefty.

Wilbur Miller

Yeah, I’m being too hopeful.

Catch_22

I honestly don’t see any scenario where they don’t keep Newman. Unless they get good value from him in a trade.

CTBucco

They may keep him, but I’m surprised there is this much sentiment to keep him. Yeah, he is a dependable fielder, and he was the best hitter for average on the team this year (low bar). But his .690 OPS, 1.1 WAR and 95 OPS+ (in a “rebound” year) seem easily replaceable especially when we have a glut of middle infield guys. Bae and Castro splitting time at 2B with each capable of giving Cruz a day off at SS seems like a better use of the roster spot to me. Even more so when Gonzales and Peguero will hopefully be pushing for spots by 2nd half next year.

1979andCounting

What’s the formula for arb2? $1.95 M this year……I think he’d sign for $2.95 M.

PirateRican21

Is this the same Newman that was the league’s worse hitter? I think money could and should be better spent, he’s gonna probably get around $2 million? That’s reliever money, ok Pirates’ reliever money!

forkball

Why are Castillo and Gamel playing first base the last few days? someone tell me please

Catch_22

Simple question, simple answer.

Ben Cherington thought Yoshi was adequate and he zero depth behind him.

1979andCounting

Castillo is (was?) an infielder, such a lazy approach with one hand rather than two hands. Maybe he forgot he was in the IF today and not OF.

1979andCounting

He used 2 hands on the next two grounders in 4th…….baby steps. Now we need Pitchers Fielding Practice…..smh.

Catch_22

Big difference between being a middle infielder and a 1bmen. These guys that think you can hand any swinging d*ck a 1b mitt are painfully flat wrong.

Wilbur Miller

Because if you’re getting a guy some experience at a new position and it’s early in the season, he might get better by the end of the season. If you start putting him there at the end of the season, it becomes pointless.

Hope that helped.

AdministrativeSky236

Mlb.com article about hayes dealing with a back issue all season. Hopeful that means an offseason of rest will help him be healthier and more productive offensively next year

skliesen

To be expected after his wallet was fattened last winter.

b mcferren

things that I hope happen today

(1) Suwinski homerun
(2) Oviedo has no walks
(3) Bednar save
(4) Andujar plays first base
(5) last minute call up Endy to start as catcher
(6) Bae has two steals
(7) Tucupito has two hits
(8) Oneil Cruz drag bunt

Last edited 2 months ago by b mcferren
robertkasperski

Can’t believe its…………..over…………….

AdministrativeSky236

Sad day with the end of the bucs season, maybe i just like pain but i would take another 162 right after this one if i could

robertkasperski

February 25, 2023 Blue Jays home in Bradenton…….only 143 days….

Wilbur Miller

143 DAYS??!!

1979andCounting

“BNP hotel reservations booked on Tim’s credit card”

robertkasperski

JEFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You spent how much on room service?????

Wilbur Miller

Long ago, I worked at DOJ in an office that did a lot of travel. Some of the attorneys didn’t realize that their room bills, which of course had to be submitted to the Department, listed the titles of any PPV movies they watched, including adult movies.

robertkasperski

LOL!!

robertkasperski

You are in a beach front property with that pool, aren’t you?

robertkasperski

That is in Tim’s head now….will be there for about 163 days too !!!

SouthernBuc

An end of season question for a roster geek. Is there a list or an easy way to tell who will be a minor league free agent within the Pirates system? I know it was mentioned Chavis is eligible.

Wilbur Miller

Not a list, but all the player pages linked thru the depth chart show MiL FA eligibility.

SouthernBuc

Hmm… work on the honey-do-list or see who is a free agent. Seems like a no-brainer.

Wilbur Miller

The real MiL FA list, value-wise, is if Vlad can be prevailed upon to do a list of guys to target. #FindVlad

Wilbur Miller

Ha, yeah

Cobra

Sorry if I missed this : if we win today, and Reds lose – who has tiebreaker for the third slot in the draft lottery?

https://www.tankathon.com/mlb

CTBucco

I think that’s right. Before yesterday’s games, the Bucs & Reds had the exact same record, yet the Reds were listed ahead of us. I assume that was a reflection of whatever tiebreakers are used. I guessed that it might be run differential.

SouthernBuc

Thanks Jeff, I was assuming head to head. Not that I like hoping for a loss… but at this point might as well get the higher odds but having said that there is not a big difference if they would have ended up with the 4th worst record.

Wilbur Miller

I read one place that it’s HtH, but that doesn’t seem right.

TNBucs

I had read that too but since not every team plays every other team until next year, it would seem that they’d have to stick with the past method of basing it on the previous season’s record.

Relatedly, I’m glad that we’ll soon be banned from drafting in the lottery if we continue this historic stretch of ineptitude–no team should be rewarded in any way for repeatedly losing 100+ games. A really bad couple of seasons–fine. Having that continue for 3+ years shouldn’t be seen as acceptable. Maybe I’ll give Cherington a pass for the pandemic as he’s suggested, but by next year we should be able to play our way out of the lottery.

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