Pirates Discussion: Still a Long Way To Go

There are 52 games to go and there has been modest roster movement since the deadline.

From a position player standpoint since the deadline, the Pittsburgh Pirates have released Yoshi Tsutsugo and Jake Marisnick, promoted Tucupita Marcano, swapped Cal Mitchell for Rodolfo Castro, and claimed Jose Godoy after a brief stay by Taylor Davis following Tyler Heineman’s placement on the injured list.

Indianapolis has been handled much the same recently. The Pirates claimed Kevin Padlo and Drew Maggi to assign them in Triple-A, brought Brendt Citta back from Altoona, and had promoted Mike Jarvis all the way from Greensboro to Indianapolis after only 12 games in High-A.

Then in Altoona even after the recent promotion of Endy Rodriguez, the Curve only had three bench players Tuesday night. Altoona will likely see the return of Lolo Sanchez and Nick Gonzales soon, since both are currently in the midst of rehab assignments in the lower levels.

It’s hard to say if there will be many more promotions in the near future as there are few prospects whose production warrants such a move. There may be some movement of organizational players like Claudio Finol — who has to have quite the stockpile of frequent flyer miles over the last two seasons.

Barring any injuries that may pop up, the types of moves we’re likely to see the rest of the season will probably mimic the Rodolfo Castro promotion to replace Cal Mitchell. Players with options that are moveable for players with options.

Pirates @ Diamondbacks

Time: 8:40 PM EST

Pirates Starter: Mitch Keller (3-8, 4.21)

Diamondbacks Starter: Madison Bumgarner (6-10, 3.96)

Keller Notes: There isn’t much more to say about Mitch Keller than what has already been said lately of how much better he’s been. Keller managed to only strikeout one batter in his last start through six innings, but he was able to keep the ball on the ground with 54.2% groundballs. His sinker is still his most thrown pitch generally, but has ticked down gradually throwing it only 27.6% in his previous start. One aspect that may be worth watching is his curveball usage. He threw the pitch second most for 26.4% of the time against the Baltimore Orioles, which was the first time he’d thrown it more than the Slider since June 19th.

LINEUPS:

Pirates

coming soon…

Diamondbacks

1. Jake McCarthy (L) LF
2. Alek Thomas (L) CF
3. Ketel Marte (S) 2B
4. C. Walker (R) 1B
5. Daulton Varsho (L) RF
6. E. Rivera (R) 3B
7. Seth Beer (L) DH
8. Carson Kelly (R) C
9. Geraldo Perdomo (S) SS

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ironmike56

Pirates had quite a few hard hit balls tonight.

TNBucs

Because of that, it was one of the more fun games to watch. Lots of line drives and I felt like we had a chance to get our runners in. Pretty tired this morning but it was worth seeing the 9th, and especially Stout getting his first MLB save after his long journey. Though, tbh, giving Luplow who mashes lefties the opportunity to face a lefty as the tying run didn’t seem like the best move.

ironmike56

Still trying to figure that play out. Did Castro get a force out at second for the first out? If so who was the second? Couldn’t the rundown guy take the now vacated 2nd?

1979andCounting

Yeah the rundown guy didn’t step on 2nd or he would’ve been safe. Newman tagged him out.

1979andCounting

Whew……dodged a blunder. Big DP.

HeyFred

Definitely a blunder but got away with it. And kept the force in order!

Still dumb, tho.

joebaseball

Crowe pitching well. Wonder if he will come out for the ninth.

joebaseball

So much for that.

1979andCounting

I’d feel a little better with an insurance run or two…….ah lineout by Delay…..maybe in the 9th.

ironmike56

It was worth it to stay up to see Keller’s full outing, and then his display of emotion in dugout after being lifted with two on. It seemed like he was frustrated by the bad luck hits AND being taken out.
Seeing him lose it was somehow good……announcers liked it too. Especially Walk.

jon6er

He wasn’t too happy to see a groundball out go right through a vacated infielder spot kind of like AJ Burnett pissed.

patrick_kelly

Newman keeps building that off-season trade value. Shame he was hurt a good chunk of the year.

jon6er

Walker has beaten the shift 4 times this series so far driving in several runs but Shelton keeps employing it and the pitchers keep pitching him outside pitches in the zone for him to beat it, lol.

ironmike56

Exactly. As said above Keller was probably pissed about the shift induced hit.

PirateRican21

I don’t know how you east coast fan do it, is only 8:40 pm but it feels way late to be watching a game.

patrick_kelly

Tucu is quickly turning into my favorite young Buc. Bat is starting to show up and plays hard. That speed is unreal.

1979andCounting

BnP won’t agree, but that’s ok, he’s sleeping!
I agree, I like Tucu and Allen. Ballplayers! Wonder if Ben is watching how speed can change a game?

Wilbur Miller

I liked what I saw of Allen in March. High-energy guy who seemed determined to win a job. Don’t know whether he’ll work out or not, but he deserves a shot. It’s a shame he got hurt and couldn’t get the PT they wasted on deadenders.

PirateRican21

Ok let’s get those runs back, starting with Newman’s first.

PirateRican21

Close!

PirateRican21

Good job Delay/Marcano!

1979andCounting

Mental error on Walker, gotta come home is the only defense with a runner like Tucu (or Allen).

patrick_kelly

This ump is terrible.

docdon385

Like I said, Gamel’s a heck of a clean up hitter.

PirateRican21

Reynolds not producing with runners in scoring position, imagine that.

slider1971

And again- An infielder playing the OF costs Keller an out. Meanwhile Suwinski continues to linger at Indy.

docdon385

Gamel the clean up hitter. Nothing like a double play to clean it up.

Wilbur Miller

Lameday thinks MadBum is a RHP. I guess he’s too new for them to recognize.

1979andCounting

Castro gets the start tonite because he bats RH. No benching for his mindless cell phone in his pocket gaffe? I think it’s funny actually, but MLB isn’t laughing. There’s a rule he can’t have it on the field or in the dugout. Fines are coming!

skliesen

It’s a symptom of a disease. Lack of accountability from top down. There’s not the same expectation of professional behavior in this organization as say the Yankees and the Cardinals.

This is a Bob Nutting problem.

1979andCounting

Looks like his cell phone is in his other pocket tonite…..lol. That’s gotta be a scouting book.

Wilbur Miller

I hope he at least had the sense to get a burner.

hoffmark83

The only reason the Pirates are keeping JVM on the roster is so Pirates prospects subscribers have a player they can bitch about. True story.

TNBucs

Could we use a guy with a .341/.383/.523 slash?

Yu Chang in 47 PAs since joining Tampa Bay.

john_fluharty

He had a hot streak when he first joined the Pirates too. I doubt this one lasts.

KirkV12

Further evidence that our talent acquisition is not the issue, but our ability to facilitate production from talent is worst in the game. Though Chang was awful with other clubs before us too, so credit to the Rays for being endlessly magical at turning duds into stars

NMR

How dare you suggest we take at bats away from the Pirates 37th ranked prospect. We’re trying to build a winner here

TNBucs

I’d feel stronger about giving more prospects opportunities if I felt our major league coaches were able to get something close to the best out of them. I don’t, so AAA is fine. However, I don’t like the shuttle system between Pittsburgh and the minors–it’s like we’re trying to catch lightening in a bottle, but even if we do it would just be a SSS result. Instead, decide which rookies are ready and stick with them. The shuttling back and forth makes me feel like our scouts and analysts can’t do better than throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks. They should be better than that.

Anthony

I don’t mind it at all; I actually prefer it to the previous regime. Results aren’t what they’re looking for here. It’s more about accepting a challenge and responding to adversity. Very few guys are ready from day one in the bigs. This gives them an opportunity to better understand the game at its highest level and take those experiences with them back to AA/AAA (or fall/winter ball) and make the appropriate adjustments. How do you know which guys are really ready if they’ve never competed at the highest level?

NMR

I hear you, but this can’t functionally work if and when they actually start trying to win baseball games.

The minor leagues exist precisely because the wins and losses ultimately do not really matter. That is where the developmental lumps must happen.

This club has no chance in hell to compete if they’re continually using the big club to develop prospects. They’ve quite literally turned themselves into the League’s farm team, and that’s incredibly sad.

Last edited 1 month ago by NMR
Wilbur Miller

Here’s an interesting factoid:

The Pirates are easily last in the NL in runs per game. This will make BC 3-for-3 in having the NL’s worst offense.

In 26 years under Bonifay, Littlefield and Huntington, the total number of times the Pirates finished last in the NL in R/G: 2.

beaverjp

how often were they top 10?

Wilbur Miller

They were above the NL avg six times and top 5 three times.

Catch_22

If I had to guess, Ben will wait until the final series of the season to call-up certain players.

docdon385

Where are all the moves BC talked about before the deadline? There are a few different faces but these are the same pathetic Pirates with the same pathetic manager. How about swapping managerial staffs with Indy or Altoona for the last month of the season and see what Perez or Mattison can do with this group? Sell it as wanting to give Shelton some first hand experience with the young guys? Won’t happen of course but I’m trying to keep my interest in this team by playing “what if.”

Keeping Newman is slightly understandable but not as a regular and what kind of utility player can only play 2nd and SS? Allen? Still hasn’t played much, so okay. VanMeter? Enough said? I don’t dislike the guy but why is Gamel still here? He’ll be a free agent so unless they plan to resign him why is he playing instead of someone who will still be around?

Then there’s Madris who’s shown nothing offensively and only passable defensive skills but stays on the roster. He’s simply not a major league player and at 26 y/o is less than a year younger than VanMeter and hardly more than a journeyman minor leaguer with virtually no ability to hit for power anywhere he’s been. Is he really a major league 1st baseman or corner outfielder? Is he just being used as another placeholder or what? Indy could probably use him.

Why is BC keeping other players down instead of trying to see what they can do and maybe improve the team or at least make it more interesting to watch? Are Swaggerty, Suwinski, etc. being kept in down for a reason? Is service-time involved or do Indy and Altoona just need players?

Then there’s Mason Martin who’s actually a first baseman by trade, but of course the Pirates have no need for one of those. He’s tried making the adjustments they recommended and has been striking out less but still has gotten no chance. If not him how about Shackelford? Altoona to Pittsburgh has been a road traveled by several recently. No they prefer Madris or VanMeter at first when Chavis doesn’t play. Are they trying to bore us to death or at least to complacency?

I’m just rambling and will stop, thankfully. I don’t expect answers to the questions unless someone seriously has some. I’m just trying to keep up my interest in this team for the remainder of the season because I fear it’s quickly fading especially with football season coming up.

skliesen

At this point in time it’s readily apparent they only care about saving money and draft position for next year. If they cared at all about winning or preparing their players for next season, guys like JVM and Gamel would be gone.

NMR

If the Pirates “cared about winning” they’d acquire actual good baseball players instead of fetishizing playing time for shittier and shittier prospects with almost zero chance of ever developing into impact big leaguers.

You’ve all completely lost your minds.

This rebuild has scrubbed any remembrance of what winning baseball teams actually look like from your brains.

skliesen

Winning baseball teams don’t send down their best pitcher in the middle of his rookie season to “manage his workload” and replace him in the rotation with a RP with a worse arm. I can guaran-damn-tee you that!

Seems all they care about is stifling players pay and trying to have the highest ranked farm system in MLB. Playing meaningful games in Pittsburgh past Memorial Day? Not part of the plan.

NMR

No argument there my friend.

Cobra

I have zero problem with fans wanting to see 24/25/26 year olds in our minor league system who were drafted/signed for six figures or more by this franchise, allegedly “developed” by this franchise, & in some instance have enjoyed some success in the minors rather than the guys with zero chance of any future on this club like JVMs, Ben Gamel et al. That is not a position detached from reality.

Adam Frazier was a 6th round pick out of college. From 2011 to 2018, he had about 2,500 at bats and — not a typo —a total 3 home runs. Of course in Pittsburgh he had 20 home runs for us in 870 at bats in ‘18 & 19.

Is it wrong for fans to want to see what we have in our minor leaguers vs. the broken down, verifiably crappy Free Agents this organization signs? i say no

Last edited 1 month ago by Cobra
ArkyWags

I don’t think it’s wrong to want to see a lot of those young fringe guys in the minors. But they’ve also brought lots of fringe guys along this year.

Suwinski got a long look, showed some promise, then was getting eaten alive so no harm in sending him down. Mitchell is posting a staunch 60 +WRC in about 150 plate appearances. Castillo has gotten a long look as well and shown some pop and little else. All told (using FG grades here), the Bucs have given 850 plate appearances to prospects 24 or younger and are 45+‘s or less: Swaggerty, Castillo, Jack, Marcano, Mitchell, Castro, etc.

Fair or not, the best way for a fringe guy to stick is to hit from Day 1. They’re not going to get lots of rope or time to fail (like Cruz). So they’ve gotta show something early. The only one who has so far is Jack.

The two that mystify me with folks here are Swaggerty and Martin. Swaggerty basically missed two years in a row and had a grand total of 48 plate appearances above high A. Why the hell anyone here thinks it’s a good idea Swag to be dumped in the shark infested waters that is MLB pitching is beyond me. The dude needs time, and while that sucks to hear, it’s not like Swag is a carton of milk who will expire if he doesn’t get regular playing time at the bigs when he’s over 25. Martin makes less contact as he climbs the ladder. Is he really going to be any different at MLB? He’ll make Cruz look like a contact hitter.

I get it. Prospects make us all irrational and we all have our favorite fringe guys that we dream on. And we’re all frustrated by JVM and his ilk. But the biggest way this team actually improves at the MLB level is to spend seriously on talent. Not hoping to catch lightning in a bottle with these guys.

NMR

The point is that by any rational accounting, that’s exactly what they’re doing!

More so than any other team in baseball!

This is what I’m talking about with the extremism, you literally want them to play an entire roster of AAA players regardless of quality. It’s absolutely bizarre.

Adam Frazier was called up and earned his playing time by actually being good at baseball. What a concept!

Wilbur Miller

The notion that you’re being totally unreasonable for not wanting to watch Josh VanMeter is one of the stupidest ideas I’ve run across. I guess you’re a whiny bitch if you don’t want to listen to Three Blind Mice for three hours a day, too.

john_fluharty

Three blind mice – owner, general manager, manager.

NMR

Not wanting to watch JVM isn’t stupid, desperate to watch equally shitty if not shittier players in his place is.

Nobody here has been more critical of this disastrously slow rebuild than I have, but the delusion that’s taken over this board is not a demand for playing actual good baseball players that are needed to pull them out of this cycle. It’s to play shittier and shittier prospects for no other reason than that they are “young” and “homegrown” or whatever.

People are far more upset about that than the fact that there’s barely any light showing at the end of this tunnel and it’s insanely bizarre.

Wilbur Miller

This is a much more useful point than just complaining about people complaining.

When folks here see VM or Yoshi or Chang or some other horror in the Daily Dumbo Drop, they’re obviously going to look at the options. Given a choice between guy who has a 0% of ever contributing to a good Pirates team and a guy who has a non-0% chance, they’re obviously going to take the latter. Especially when that player’s present value, let alone his future potential, is much greater than the other’s. Every one of the rookies they’ve played has been radically better than Yoshi, and all but a couple have been much better than VM, and none has been worse.

But in the context of a daily lineup, most folks aren’t going to launch into a treatise on why those are the only options. It’s not like everybody here doesn’t know that GMBS and his wrecking crew have shown a staggering inability to identify or coach hitting talent. It takes too much time to dive into the woeful tale of incompetence. So, yeah, when a long-suffering Pirate fan sees VM in there, the natural reaction is to look for somebody who’d be better, which is basically everybody. The question of why GMBS has managed to latch onto guys that even Littlefield or Huntington wouldn’t have dreamed of touching with a ten-foot pole defies discussion. And why every single rookie who comes to the majors struggles is, too.

Last edited 1 month ago by Wilbur Miller
buccobrach2

There’s not much to write about except we are still bad, and are gonna be bad , probably for the next 15 years or so. This organization has no clue what they are doing and it just seems like they will never put it all together. When the offense struggles, the pitching is good, when the offense is good, the pitching struggles, and last night, both struggled again or just wasn’t good enough to win major league games. It’s just depressing.

JimEastTennessee

Currently depressing? Yes, but not sure it will take a Rip Van Winkle-ish snooze of 15 years to become excited/relevant again.

Some concern with MiL development this year for a fact, and health concerns can never be accurately anticipated, but next year is a flirtatious attempt at .500 ball.
My hope starts in 2024.

chappy

I am not impressed with how the front office is using this year. I am sure there are things I, as a fan, are not privy to, but JVM’s prolonged existence on the roster has moved up the ranks of mysterious Pirate moves-non-moves in this case-and the robbing of valuable at-bats by playing Gamel and Allen so much. I can see wanting to find out what Allen may bring, but Gamel, though a solid professional, is absolutely a known quantity- a low level professional bat who lacks power. Seriously, Gamel as a clean-up hitter? Why? I want to see Mitchell here getting more and more at-bats so he can move through his development to what kind of player he might be at 800 MLB at bats.

TNBucs

The only explanation I can come up with for the continued play of Gamel is they plan to try to re-sign him in the offseason like they did with Yoshi. I wouldn’t hate them re-signing him if I could trust he’d be a 4th OF, but I’m afraid Shelton would see him as a starter. At best he should be a platoon player–he’s pretty awful against lefties, but then our roster doesn’t give Shelton many better choices against lefties.

NMR

The Pirates have given at least 50 PA to nine rookie-eligible position players this season, far more than any other rebuilding team across all of baseball.

No team in baseball has given a larger percentage of opportunities to rookies.

Your brains are completely broken.

TNBucs

I don’t have a problem with the total PAs going to rookies. My concern is that for many of those rookies, they’re not getting the consistent opportunities they need to develop. Cherington has created a bit of a mess by accumulating similar players that each offer upside but none who are anything close to a certainty. In the IF we have Castillo, Castro, Marcano, and Park who deserve a shot. In the OF it’s similar with Madris, Mitchell, Suwinski, and Swaggerty (and CSN before he got injured). Of that group of eight players, the only player I thought they handled in a way to best help him get established was Suwinski. At least to this point they’re playing Cruz everyday (I wish they’d leave him in the same spot in the lineup, but that’s minor). Maybe from here on out we’ll see Castro and Marcano everyday.

Choosing is tough, but I’d feel better if the same total PAs were spread out over fewer rookies. Instead it feels like we’re just running a season-long tryout camp but between their play in the minors, our scouts, and our analysts, we should have a better sense of who to commit to. Commit and move forward.

Catch_22

They won’t be happy until the 26 man is Hayes, Reynolds, Keller, Brubaker and 22 rookies.

The playdarookies phenomenon is the most obnoxious and strange movement I’ve witnessed in these rooms. I guess it annoys me because they are playingdarookies.

patrick_kelly

Given the current state of the roster, what is the problem with playing the kids, seeing what they have, and if they fail it’s next man up. Wanting to play the young guys and sign quality FAs are not independent feelings. With guys like JVM, Gamel, and Allen being the “big FAs” they signed last off-season this is a lost year. Why not throw some MiL shit at the wall and see if anything sticks? Then, in theory, actually supplement the promising looking guys with a couple quality FAs. Will it happen? Probably not. But some of us are looking at it in that view and not just screaming playdarookies into the ether.

NMR

How can you possibly watch this club and think that’s not exactly what they’re doing?

NMR

It’s like having to listen to a bunch of activists everyday. Completely divorced from reality, with no interest other than driving their increasingly extreme agenda.

Nobody even talks about how the prospects are playing or what they’re doing to get better! Tim and John and Murph and Jeff write all these great articles and the comments are the same 12 dudes self-immolating over Bligh Madris not getting enough at bats. Absolute insanity.

PirateRican21

The rookies have been underwhelming for the most part, we just want then to bring up ones that perform!

Wilbur Miller

They made a cynical decision to completely blow off the first four months. I guess they figured they’d throw a bunch of super-ultra-cheap veterans out there and hope for a big trade haul. If that was it, it was incredibly stupid to think the potential prospect return would outweigh the negative impact on their tiny fan base from watching the clown show. If that wasn’t it, there isn’t even a bad rationale that I can think of. Except maybe they’re afraid to put their money where their mouth is and commit to playing the products of this great development system they’re pretending to build.

john_fluharty

We endured 20 losing seasons and filled the park as soon as we started to win. Same thing may happen again if it doesn’t take too long.

PirateRican21

And somehow I felt alone in my outrage this off season when they clearly indicated that this clown show was their goal. I even got the you don’t have to spend to win brainwashed bull!

Wilbur Miller

You weren’t alone. The Trifecta of Stoopid (VM, Knapp and Marisnick) was one of the worst strings of transactions I can ever remember, and I thought so at the time. They had obvious needs going into the offseason. There were three ways to fill them: get some major league veterans, even if they’re just decent players (Gamel being an example), play rookies, or bring in veterans who aren’t major league players just to take up space. The only indefensible choice was the last one, but that’s what GMBS chose.

There’s absolutely nothing about rebuilding that requires a team to acquire players as bad as those three, or Michael Perez or Heath Hembree, or to stick for so long with a guy who’s so obviously unable to play as Tsutsugo. Calling it a rebuild (oh . . . wait . . . GMBS said it’s not a rebuild) doesn’t make it OK to put a AAA team on the field, especially not if you’re charging ML prices. There’s still an obligation to try to be competitive and not just punt 2/3 of a season.

CTBucco

So, I agree with what you write the vast majority of the time. And, like everyone, I share the frustration with the lack of progress toward a competitive team. I bought into what I reasoned to be the strategy for this season at the start. It seemed to me that the plan was to put a bunch of placeholders on the ML field who would be replaced by prospects pushing them out during the second half. I didn’t care much if they didn’t care about winning with those placeholders to improve their draft position. I also assumed that finding competent ML players to fill spots knowing that they would be pushed out mid-year would be difficult and therefore they’d be stuck with a fair bit of dreck on the roster. That said, there have been plenty of chances to add better players only to see them repeatedly choose lesser players (IMO).

That could be motivated by a desire to tank one more time. It could also be a belief that better players would be harder to push aside for prospects. We already see a fair bit of debate here over whether or not Gamel is a keeper when he clearly is not a starting OFer on a competitive team.

The frustration now – mine too – is still seeing JVM on the roster and filler in the rotation when Suwinski has already shown an ability to produce more or Bae has done about all he can to prove his readiness and Contreras continues to piss away his remaining innings at Indy. I’m all-in on giving prospects opportunity to learn, adjust, and prove themselves (or washout) at the ML level instead of wasting opportunities on ML-filler that won’t get us anywhere. So, in large part, I agree with you again. I just don’t think having more guys at Gamel’s level now really advances us toward playoff competitiveness. I do, however, appreciate how frustrating it is to watch the ineptitude of the ML team.

NMR

This insidious notion that players cannot develop in the minor leagues has taken hold and I have absolutely no idea where it comes from.

Pick any club routinely known for good development and you see ample evidence of players being sent back down to refine their skills in AAA. The Rays, the Cards, the Dodgers, so on and so forth don’t simply let their kids get their teeth kicked in when overwhelmed by big league competition.

Bae is the only dude with even an inkling of reason to be promoted and he’s injured. What do you expect them to do!

Blame them for manipulating Roansy’s service time, but that has absolutely nothing to do with the pitchers they have in the rotation right now.

CTBucco

I’m not a big Swaggerty fan, but he could be brought up. On the whole, I don’t disagree with your point that there aren’t many minor leaguers forcing their way onto the ML roster. Suwinski has little AAA experience and struggled his last couple of weeks with the Bucs. Swaggerty is doing pretty well, but it’s not like he has a .900+ OPS. CSN has been hurt. Fraizer has struggled this year. Bolton has been limited. So they all still have room to prove themselves (develop) in the minors. And that’s where my assumed plan for this season hasn’t materialized and left us in this limbo we’re in.

Given that, it seems that some would like to push the prospects up anyway and let them develop on the ML roster. And others would rather that we had filled the roster with better placeholders so the ML product would be less dreadful (and maybe find a guy or two to keep). The fact that they’ve done neither is creating a lot of frustration among the fans. And here we are.

NMR

Extremely well said, buddy.

NMR

Yes, long tanking rebuilds are awful. This is nothing more than a milquetoast version of that process.

AdministrativeSky236

I definitely want at least one rookie in the OF each game. I understand needing some vets playing but we have a good amount of OF prospects to sort through so we need that process constantly rolling

tedwins

Im guessing the pirates management team is leaving JVM on the roster to allow sports blog posters to focus on him, its working, and not the core underlying issues of the team🤔🤦‍♂️🤣

hoffmark83

They are leaving him on the roster so Pirates Prospects subscribers can have someone to bitch about.

JimEastTennessee

Yeah, no answer for the JVM situation here.   :wpds_chuckle: 

I would be willing to give Gamel his release for a possible pick-up on a playoff team. There is plenty of veteran-osity left with Reynolds and Newman.
(Newman MIGHT be tradeable this offseason) .

NMR

Two singles off sliders from a lefty last night for Oneil. Baby steps!

PirateRican21

Hey a positive-positive!

JimEastTennessee

LONG baby steps.

ironmike56

The Castro cell phone fiasco is getting a great deal of national attention and ridicule, but not much locally. Maybe we are used to recent Pirate gaffes. I hope it is not the defining moment of his career.

mikeschalke

It won’t be if he turns into a good player.

PirateRican21

This is not directed at you, but who cares!

beaverjp

time to revive will craig

NMR

Training camp has started, baseball season is over.

Colin

Here We Go!!!

TNBucs

Always interesting to watch Keller to see if the progress continues, and anytime we can beat Bumgarner is a good thing. So yeah, despite the disappointments of the last two nights and not getting the sleep I should, I’ll probably be watching 🙂

PirateRican21

He needs to K a few more or at least bring the WHIP down a tad to sustain his current success. Hope he does it today against Bum, I also hope that the team hits 3 bombs and every one them is follow by a long look and ridiculous bat flip and laughter as they run the bases.

TNBucs

Yes, the lack of K’s was evident last night–he got frustrated with some lucky hits but if he can better limit balls in play, that won’t be as much of an issue.

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