Two New Mock Drafts Have Pirates Going for Cam Collier

Two new mock drafts have been released, one by MLB Pipeline and one by Baseball America. After months of hearing Brooks Lee for the Pittsburgh Pirates with the fourth overall pick, both sources have the Pirates selecting JUCO third baseman Cam Collier.

Collier has been loosely connected to the Pirates since mid-May, which led to him being featured in our Draft Prospect Watch series (link above). However, since that first connection, he finished off his college season strong, then did well in summer ball in the Cape Cod League. He’s still just 17 years old, as he graduated early to get to junior college sooner. That move looks like it will pay off, as he got to show his skills against better competition.

Pipeline mentions that Brooks Lee and Termarr Johnson could be in play for the Pirates. Like Collier, both names have been connected to the Pirates since mock draft season started.

BA notes that the Pirates have been following him closely, but they also throw another name in there that has had passing mention for the Pirates previously, local shortstop Cole Young. He’s rated a little lower than Collier, but it might be seen as another chance to spend extra elsewhere and stock up on talent like they did in the 2021 draft.

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john_fluharty

If we get Collier and he does well, at least it might help me feel better about the first name Cam lol.

TNBucs

Earlier this week McDaniel had us picking Collier at 4 and then J.R. Ritchie, a HS RHP, in the competitive balance round.

hoffmark83

Last year pretty much everyone wanted the Pirates to “tank” so they could draft Green. Now it seems like most of you don’t want him.

ArkyWags

There’s this thing called new information…

Colin

I’ll take him in a heart beat

roberto

Do you have some insight into the swing and miss concerns?

skliesen

I’m resigned to the fact I’ll be disappointed in whomever Pirates select at #4 . But I’ll pinky promise not to be a dickhead to y’all 5 years from now when Lesko is a Cy Young candidate, and whomever Pirates select is just another non-descript IF.

gosteelers69

That’s the fear. I do not want Colloer at all. I want Parada or Termarr. I’m very fearful that this organization will blow it with this #4 pick.

NMR

I, on the other hand, will promise no such thing. 😉

ArkyWags

For whatever reason, this makes me think of one of my favorite Jim Brockmire lines: “You think I’m the type of guy who likes to say I told you so? That’s not true. I love to say it.”

skliesen

Ha!

NMR

Reeallly hoping this is our Zac Veen/Marcello Mayer/Jordan Lawler turn.

ArkyWags

In what way? Not sure what you’re driving at with the connection of those three.

Colin

I like the sound of that. Doubt we get that lucky though

jaygray007

might as well move our chats to this newer article. I assume this means that you mostly just hope Jones/Johnson fall?

Do you have a preference for what happens at 4 if those guys are gone? My guess would be youd like Holliday?

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NMR

Bingo.

If they’re all off the board I’d be perfectly fine with Collier, Parada, or Lee.

Would be pretty stoked though to go ballsy and pluck Lesko underslot.

ArkyWags

For whatever reason I’m less on Lee than the other two. Collier is insanely young and well rounded, Parada feels like he can mash. I want Termarr most of all and I’ll be pissed if they pass on him (which they will).

Green…I’d respect the guts to make that pick because of insane athleticism and this organization has to bet on that stuff. But it feels too Bubba Starling for me right now, with it all being athleticism over usable tools.

skliesen

You and me the only ones riding the Lesko train.

roberto

My concern would be weak spinning pitches, not the TJ. How about Barreira instead?

AdministrativeSky236

Would you prioritize green over those 3? He seems like the best swing for upside beyond jones/johnson/holliday

NMR

That’s one I’ll call a bridge too far; not at all convinced the hit tool can simply be taught, and by all accounts it seems there’s plenty of red flags with his.

AdministrativeSky236

Pipeline has us taking collier then jackson ferris in the sandwich round! That makes me a happy camper

AdministrativeSky236

I will not be a happy camper if we choose young roughly 15 spots higher than he should go

hoffmark83

I know it’s just a mock but, I would be onboard with picking Collier. I’m would also be onboard with picking the local kid only if we get a huge savings. Like maybe 3 mil.

PiratePrimate

That pick has to be used to pick the BEST player available, not whoever can save them money for later picks

jaygray007

the ebb and flow of “mock draft szn” is always wild. i feel like last yr we went from mocks with mostly Leiter, to mostly Mayer, to Davis like the day before.

This year we have already experienced mostly Lee, to mostly Collier, and it’ll probably change to, idk, Parada the day before.

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BackintheBucs

I agree completely. I doubt any mock drafts last year had Mayer dropping all the way to four and the Red Sox.

MShaeffer4444

Sounds like this draft is top heavy for the top two picks. After that, it’s a bunch of good prospects that could interchange at will. It’ll be tough to match last year’s haul, but I’m looking forward to seeing what happens.

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