Winter Leagues: Luis Heredia Debuts in Mexico

In Mexico on Wednesday night, Luis Heredia made his winter debut in Mexico, coming on in relief in the eighth inning. He came in with his team trailing 3-2 and walked the first batter he faced. Heredia threw a wild pitch to advance the runner to second base, then got a ground out to first base on a 3-2 pitch, which sent the runner to third base. Heredia threw another wild pitch, which scored the run. He issued a second walk, then got some help from a batter who swung on a 2-0 pitch when Heredia was having trouble throwing strikes. It ended up as a double play grounder, getting him out of the inning with just the one run. Heredia threw 19 pitches total, just six for strikes.

Harold Ramirez was dropped to ninth in the batting order after going 2-for-14 in his first three games while batting third. He went 1-for-3 with a single, though he was thrown out attempting to steal after his hit.

Carlos Munoz went 0-for-3 with two strikeouts, before being pinch-hit for in the ninth inning. He had a homer and a double on Tuesday, and has been taken out early in the other three games, going a combined 0-for-6 with three strikeouts.

Sebastian Valle went 1-for-4 with an RBI double. He’s 3-for-16 with two doubles in his first four games.

In Venezuela, Gorkys Hernandez went 2-for-3 on Wednesday. Earlier in the day, he declared free agency, making him available to sign elsewhere now. He was able to do that because he’s been outrighted to the minors twice in his career. Other minor league free agents have to wait until after the postseason to become free agents. Wilfredo Boscan also declared free agency on Wednesday.

Jose Osuna started in left field, going 0-for-3 with a hit-by-pitch. He’s played left field twice this year and first base twice.

Francisco Diaz made his winter debut as a defensive replacement, spending the last inning behind the plate. He didn’t get a chance to bat.

The Dominican winter league opens up tonight with one game on the schedule.

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 John – would you say Harold Ramirez gets decent reads in the outfield and/or makes good decisions on the bases?

Trying to figure out if he’s just simply awful at stealing bases or if it’s more of a general “baseball IQ” problem. He’s got an awful sketchy profile if the speed isn’t actually usable, like he’s currently showing.


Well said, many thanks.


He sounds like Jose Tabata 2.0.


Very true. I should talk after most of my comments would leave one to believe I think Josh Bell will be a star immediately.


John’s right, but Tabata still is a good lesson on how fragile this prospect profile is.

They *are* very similar when you compare them at similar ages, and Tabata did turn out to be a high contact hitter like he was projected. He ultimately failed because the power never came and the speed regressed to the point of liability.

Now there are obvious makeup issues at play with Tabata that Ramirez hopefully doesn’t have, but as a stocky guy with a couple leg injuries on record and poor base running I think it at least calls into question some of the same issues Tabata ran into, especially if Ramirez doesn’t turn out to be a 10-15 HR hitter.


Every article ive read on this guy, he’s either having trouble with baseball control or appetite control. Just a shame. Wonder what they saw in him to begin with? Maybe as simple as he sprouted up before other guys his age? Then once they caught up, he no longer had the physical edge?


That last line sums it up so well.


I imagine its not the first time you’ve seen that either. Sucks. Sizable investment.


Darn! We lose Sano and sign Heredia. 0-2!

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Man, too bad about Heredia. It looks like this one won’t work out. I remember the scouts saying that he had the potential to be the best Pirates pitcher ever.


Luis Heredia has got to almost be done as a Pirate.


Wish we had Sano instead.


Do you see those two years as a starter or reliever?

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