Pirates Game Discussion: Pirates at Cubs, 7:40 PM

The Pittsburgh Pirates (15-20) take on the Chicago Cubs (14-20) in game two of a three-game series at Wrigley Field on Tuesday night at 7:40 PM. The Pirates are sending out JT Brubaker (0-3, 5.34) for his seventh start, while the Cubs are countering with right-handed pitcher Keegan Thompson (2-0, 1.67), who is making his second start of the season, to go along with seven relief appearances.

Kevin Newman is starting a rehab assignment in Indianapolis today.

Here are the lineups:

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TNBucs

I’ll credit Chavis for taking some responsibility after the game. But Shelton? It was all the players need to do this, the players need to do that. No sense that maybe the coaches could share some responsibility.

ArkyWags

This team will be behind Cincinnati by end of June. Maybe sooner.

TNBucs

The most maddening thing is all the gloating Shelton did early on when they had some SSS success with how they were handling their pitchers. Maybe wait a little longer next time before you tell us how great you are.

ArkyWags

Exactly. It’s a very long season and we know your pitchers suck, Derek. And here we are three weeks later and they now have a worse run differential than Cincinnati. They’re five games up on Cincinnati and with trips to San Diego, LA, Atlanta, and St Louis (14 games) between now and mid June, it could get ugly very quickly.

jon6er

Shelton’s postgame comments

TNBucs

Tracy-esque. Coaches win, players lose.

docdon385

Time to break out the paper bags folks even if watching from home. This is just flat out embarrassing and seemingly getting worse by the day.

PiratePrimate

Oh, it will get much worse. You haven’t seen the fights in the dugout, yet. Just wait until Nickles blames Shelton and the rumors will start as the knives come out. And we haven’t even started to hear the complaints from the Players Union and, hopefully, the MLB, as to Nickles habit of sticking payroll in his pocket instead of on the field. It’s gonna get very ugly, very soon.

docdon385

That would be more entertaining than this shite.

bucsws2014

Apparently this Morel kid might be better than Hayes when he arrives for real.

docdon385

It’s one at bat against a Pirate pitcher; not exactly hall of fame credentials.

HeisenbergWW

When was the last time the Pirates had a hit and a run in the same game?

PiratePrimate

Like a dead cat bounce, Dr. Heisenberg?

Wilbur Miller

It’s true, VanMeter hits like his Pop.

PiratePrimate

This might be the worst major league baseball team I’ve ever watched.

Wilbur Miller

You can watch this clown show?

docdon385

Hey, watch it, clowns are people too. At least they’re trying to be funny and can sometimes be entertaining. The Pirates are neither. Clowns deserve better than being compared to this mess of a so called baseball team.

PiratePrimate

Masochism is nothing to make fun of

PiratePrimate

There’s a reason Boston cut bait w/ Chavis

1979andCounting

Yeah, their bullpen had like 4 injuries and they were in first place at trade deadline. Pirates traded LH Austin Davis for Chavis. Win-win.

PiratePrimate

He’d been up and down and hadn’t played worth a damn for two years.

HeisenbergWW

I’d play Castillo at SS and Chavis at 2B everyday at least until Newman is back.

TNBucs

Chavis turning to blame Castro while letting Contreras get to second seems to capture the essence of the 20-22 Pirates. I’m ready to cut bait on Chavis—you can’t build a culture of winning with guys like that. But the lack of accountability comes from the top, so it doesn’t surprise me to see Chavis think it’s okay to not take his responsibility for his own mistakes.

HeisenbergWW

It wasn’t a good look for Chavis but as Walk noted, that was on Castro.
Overall, I think Chavis has been pretty good. This play was an exception. I think Chavis should be given a shot as the everyday 2B. Enough of JT Riddle Vanmeter.

TNBucs

I had liked Chavis, but that was such a classless and stupid move to publicly call out a teammate while the play was still live. Unless he apologizes later, I’ve lost respect for him.

1979andCounting

After watching the replay, the ball was so high that it bounced 12+ feet when it hit the hard IF which gave Chavis no play on force at second. I think that’s where Brownie and Walk mis-called the play. It’s similar to a Baltimore chop at home plate. Nothing Chavis could do waiting for the ball while Contreras took second.

1979andCounting

And I didn’t see Chavis calling his teammate out. Apparently both of them lost the ball, just as Walk stated……speculating they exchanged words like “did you see it, I lost it.”

HeyFred

This team is bereft of feck, hap, and accountability. Not easy to love.

bucsws2014

Cubs organist just played “Rodolfo the Red-Nosed Reindeer” during Castro’s AB. Mean, but funny.

Mblee24

I gotta say I’m about done following this team this year. It’s disgusting to watch. There’s really nothing to get excited about. Minor leaguers have been disappointing and the big league team is jus embarrassing. No starters and no hitters. Sorry for the negativity but there needs to be some kind of progress and I see none.

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PiratePrimate

Good hops, Yoshi!

HeyFred

But hands of stone

PirateRican21

Bad year so far, I knew the big league club will be bad, even historically bad but took solace that Hayes will improve and Reynolds would be great once again plus the minors will be fun, whiffed on all three.

phieralph

My dad is a huge 76ers fan. He says in the last twenty years of watching, the season the Sixers were historically bad was his favorite. They just played a bunch of young guys and looked to see what worked. They went 10-72… Maybe he’s just a masochist. Maybe I’m just a masochist.

HeyFred

Fugly, and not that hard to not be fugly. Shelton’s team is not having a very good week.

1979andCounting

Flashback. Contreras and Will Crowe. A Nightmare.

HeyFred

Javy and Will Craig comes to mind.

1979andCounting

Got both guys wrong, but we all remember lol.

HeyFred

Selective memory. I remember the train wreck officer, but not the train…..

PirateRican21

Castro was deemed not a SS as early as HI A, and yet here he is, playing SS in the bigs……

HeisenbergWW

Castillo looked pretty solid at SS. I don’t understand Castro replacing him at SS the past few games.

TNBucs

Another characteristic of Shelton-ball—play guys out of position because that seems fun.

jon6er

Yeah that doesn’t happen with Hayes and Newman plus I really believe Castillo would have taken charge on that play. I know if that ball bounces in front of Hayes he’s looking at the runners not a teammate.

1979andCounting

Gotta say, missing Newman big time at SS.

PiratePrimate

Go to a Pirates game and you get to see a comedy act.

phieralph

Oh boy.

TNBucs

Shelton-ball

TNBucs

No focus, no accountability.

bucsws2014

Keystone Kops time.

phieralph

New Villain Unlocked.

PirateRican21

Volgebach? Because he was the asshole on that play.

phieralph

Contreras? What did Vogelbach do?

HeisenbergWW

He swiped Contrearas’ mask away after the out call

phieralph

Did not catch that. You’re right. Feel bad for my guy. he was embarrassed.

PirateRican21

I doubt that Cora would’ve sent him there. WTF?

phieralph

I get it. Momentum. He just legged out a triple. Contreras tries to throw him out in between pitches. F^&# it, send him. It was close. If he had made it, I would’ve lost it. Momentum shift.

1979andCounting

Frankly, I’d be worried about a hammy for Vogie on a short sprint home. The guy is built to have an injury like that. Shelton should be in Rabelo’s ear on that one.

1979andCounting

Bad send for sure. Take your chances with Chavis.

PiratePrimate

No matter how bad this all is, it’s awfully funny.

1979andCounting

Schwindel and Wisdom killed us and the league last year. Cubs having a major dose of sophomore slump from those two. Both post-prospects……..feels familiar.

bucsws2014

Bru still on pace for a Maddux!

bucsws2014

But not anymore.

jon6er

Good move Sheltie now Vogey can leadoff. Love those solo homers hey!

PiratePrimate

Quite a number of scouts at the Altoona game. We’ve got prospects. A number of teams will be looking to trade solid but expensive vets for a prospect or two. The Pirates have money. If there’s a window with these young players coming up that window better have some solid veteran presence in it. And cheap, aging players are not gonna cut it. Start spending money!

HeyFred

I can’t tell if you’re being facetious or serious. I’ll assume facetious, because the idea that we should trade prospects out of Altoona for “solid but expensive veterans” is a surefire recipe for Chris Archer 2.0.

PiratePrimate

It’s good to have some pop in that lead off spot

Drufan11

Don’t worry guys Van Meter is leading off!

Drufan11

jon6er

Getting ready for the game

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