Andrew McCutchen on Remaining in Pittsburgh, Being Ready in 2016, Cubs Hype

BRADENTON, Fl. — I was getting video of Cole Tucker this morning in the batting cages, when all of a sudden a familiar face stepped into the box in the same cage that Tucker was working in. The Pirates had a high school team working out at Pirate City today, and I was immediately surrounded by them, with all of them getting out their phones for video, watching each swing closely, and openly wondering how he does that — with “that” being the ability to crush the ball with such a short and sweet swing.

Andrew McCutchen taking batting practice, wearing a 21 shirt. #Pirates

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You didn’t have to tell those kids that it was Andrew McCutchen in the box. They knew immediately. And they watched in amazement in the same way that someone my age once watched Ken Griffey Jr. take swings live.

A few weeks ago, Bob Nightengale of USA Today interviewed Pirates’ owner Bob Nutting, who said he’d love to see Andrew McCutchen stay with the Pirates forever. It’s easy to say that. McCutchen is an icon, not just in Pittsburgh, but across the game. Young kids gather to see him take swings in a batting cage, even if they’re not Pirates fans. He’s the type of player you want on your team.

However, the reality is that McCutchen is one of the best in the game, and will likely get paid like the best in the game. The good news is that he’s also interested in remaining in Pittsburgh for the rest of his career.

“I’m not too focused on it, but definitely I’ve mentioned it before,” McCutchen said. “I’ve said it plenty of times. A place that I love to be, a place I’d love to spend my career and win championships. Just be here and nothing else. It doesn’t happen a whole lot in this game, but if the opportunity presents itself, that would be great… It’s great to hear that from an owner, but I’m not too focused on that.”

It’s hard to say what a McCutchen extension would cost at this point, but you’d have to think the market value would take it to one of the biggest contracts in the game. The Pirates would realistically never be able to afford McCutchen at his market rate, while also fielding a team around him. That said, McCutchen doesn’t seem to be the type of guy who is only influenced by money.

“A lot of people define us — baseball players and athletes — by our contracts. I don’t take that lightly, because I believe I’m worth more than just some numbers that you throw up on a board,” McCutchen said. “Anybody can get paid millions and millions of dollars, but it’s what you do with who you are. You can not even make that much money, but you can bring so much to a team on the field, off the field. My teammates don’t define me by how much I sign. They define me by who I am. They define me by my character. That’s worth way more than whatever the dollar sign is and how much you sign for.”

Even if it was possible to get McCutchen on a discounted deal, it would still be a lot of money. The Pirates would be able to afford the discounted price, although that brings up a debate. On one side of things, they’ve got Austin Meadows, who is one of the top 25 prospects in the game. They’ve also got Harold Ramirez breaking into the top 100 rankings. And Starling Marte and Gregory Polanco are both young and under team control through the 2020 and 2021 seasons, respectively.

On the flip side of things, McCutchen is an icon, and while he might not be playing at an MVP pace during his extension years, he could still be very good. So it’s not an easy argument to make from either side. Fortunately, it’s not a decision that need to be made right now, and McCutchen repeated over and over that he’s not focused on the topic right now. But there will come a time when this decision needs to be made, and because of McCutchen’s status in the game, it’s going to be an interesting choice for the Pirates to make.

Ready to go for 2016

Last Spring, all of the talk surrounding McCutchen was whether he had a knee injury, and how much that could impact his game. He struggled in the month of April, then quickly turned things around and put up numbers that were more commonly associated with Andrew McCutchen. This time around, he’s looking to avoid the early season struggles.

“I’m ready to go, as opposed to last year. That’s why I’ve been here,” McCutchen said on his early arrival to Pirate City. “I’m going to be right, ready to go in Spring Training into the season. I’m looking forward to getting started, getting ready.”

McCutchen didn’t have a bad season last year, although his 5.8 fWAR was his lowest total since 2011, before he became an MVP. He did finish fifth in the NL MVP voting, but might have some motivation to return to his 2012-14 numbers.

“I’m motivated in the sense that, physically I wasn’t where I needed to be last year at the beginning of the season,” McCutchen said. “There’s a lot of things that I had to just get over and move forward. That’s this game. Everything isn’t going to be perfect, and things aren’t always going to go well.”

McCutchen said that his knee is great, and that it won’t be a question of whether he’s healthy this year.

“I’m looking forward to this year. I’m 29 years old, but I feel like I’m 22,” McCutchen said. “That’s what it’s all about, feeling good, feeling young. And the teammates, these guys around me, we’re going to keep each other young.”

In the Shadow of the Cubs

A lot of focus this off-season has been on the Cubs and the young team they’ve assembled. The Cardinals have also gotten a lot of hype, as they tend to be a team that contends year after year. That has left the Pirates sitting third in most NL Central projections, with seemingly no chance to contend for anything other than a second Wild Card spot. McCutchen said he doesn’t focus on outside predictions much, but did bring up a good point about those predictions in recent years.

“How many times have we been on the back burner these past few years? I think almost every year, if I’m not mistaken,” McCutchen said. “No one ever expects us to do that well. We won 98 games last year. It wasn’t enough for us, but I don’t think many people saw us doing what we did. I’m just looking forward to us going and doing what we do. Focusing on each other, having each other’s back, playing some good ball, and when it’s all said and done, we’ll be able to look back and assess what we did.”

Other Notes

**McCutchen was wearing a “Retire 21” shirt today, a reference to the movement to retire Roberto Clemente’s number. The Pirates will be playing a two game series in Puerto Rico this summer, playing in Clemente’s home country. McCutchen talked about the importance of that series.

“He’s meant a lot to not only this franchise, but the game of baseball. It’s great to be able to play in his homeland. I’m looking forward to it. I haven’t been there since I was 11 and I did a Roberto Clemente camp there. There’s some history that I’ve had there, and wearing a Pirate uniform now, being able to go back, it’s going to be a lot of fun.”

**I’ve noticed that a lot of the minor league outfielders have adopted traits of McCutchen’s game, which makes sense, as it’s not just high school players looking up to him as an icon. One of the most notable cases has been Austin Meadows adding the sliding side catch on balls hit to shallow center field. I asked McCutchen today if he ever gets any questions or requests for advice from the minor leaguers in the system.

“There’s some talk here and there between me and the other guys, but it’s not a whole lot. Being a younger guy or whatever it may be, they don’t want to be stepping on your toes. That’s just the way that is. A lot of times if they have a question, they normally just keep it to themselves, because they don’t want to feel like they’re bothering me. I’ve been there. We get along really well. Everyone’s cool on the field. A lot of times we talk, we don’t talk about baseball that much. There has been some chatter here and there between us. Everyone is here to learn, and I think a lot of times you don’t just learn by asking, you learn by watching. We all learn from each other. Just because I’m older, doesn’t mean I can’t learn myself from a person younger than me. So I don’t mind asking questions from their standpoint and learning from them as well.”

  • Cutch may say the right things but he knows about what he is worth in the open market and it will not be in Pittsburgh.

  • Honestly, this situation may be different than about any other I’d think I’ve seen. I think it’s possible that the best course of action is to simply let Cutch play out his deal. Why? Because he’s likely going to be worth it to have on the team at the cost of his deal. Forget return prospects, keep Cutch as long as you can. At the end of the deal you get a 1st round compensation pick for losing him, so it’s not like you get nothing. I have no interest in trading an MVP player for prospects. Sorry.

  • I hope this management team is not making decisions based on one prospect. That sounds like logic from the previous administration that will not be named. If Cutch does age well and meadows also shines, then the team has more assets to work with. It isn’t a problem to have a performing veteran blocking a talented prospect. I realize the cost of each player in that scenario is very different, but I still think that is a bad way to plan. You shouldn’t ever bank on a prospect to reach his upside….especially to replace Cutch’s production.

  • Fortunately a decision about Andrew’s future in Pittsburgh doesn’t need to happen today…or tomorrow….So let’s treasure and enjoy him for who he is. First of all, a person of sterling character, someone who has the class and bearing that reflects well first on him, but also who represents the Pirates and the sporting tradition of Pittsburgh wonderfully well.. Someone who both The Great One himself, and “Pops” Stargell would look upon with pride. And secondly, as a great great player. Let’s rejoice and hope for another fabulous season from him!!!

  • The Pirates can get the most back for him with two years left on his deal usually, right? If Meadows keeps up his pace in the minors this year, don’t you have to at least listen to trade offers? If you can get good production from Meadows/Ramirez, do you really want to extend him at $20-$25 million a year instead of spending that elsewhere?

    • Excellent point. Even if you can get him for 80% of market value…but you have a replacement of substantial quality…the smartest move for a small market team is to take the prospects a trade would bring and reallocate the funds.

      • A lot will depend on whether the DH is implemented in the NL. I see Cutch’s ability to field going away alot earlier than his ability to hit.

        • Totally agree. But…do you pay a guy $24M+ who just bats? That’s a steep paycheck for a small market team. In 2019 you’d be looking at $50+ for him, Cole, and Marte…plus another 22 guys to pay.

          • don’t worry about Cole, he won’t be with the Bucco’s when his contract runs out. So Cal with Boris.

    • We can’t afford to “retool two years in a row” or we will never really have the window to win championships. If they were going to trade him, they should do it now, move Marte to center, move Polanco to Left and move Bell back to Right field. They aren’t going to trade Cutch before the 2017 season or during it unless we crap out, so it;s a moot point. I truly believe we are looking to make our best run at a championship in 2017, and win it or not, you would see what the market will give you for Cutch at that point. I really have no idea why we are holding onto Melancon right now honestly- its a completely pointless cost right now and his value will only go down as the season goes forward. There is always a big danger when you do something halfway- This team is not a championship team, and we’d need amazing health and luck to go anywhere, so why not just get what you can for Melancon and Cutch- and stock this team for a huge championship run in 2017 and 2018. If we aren’t willing to spend another 10-15 million to give this team a chance this year, lets save 25 million and put it towards next year’s championship run.

      • Bell won’t be moved…he’s put on too much weight.

        But…the point you raised is…this isn’t a championship team. I don’t know that I agree.

        Look at the Royals…they went from wild card team to World Series winner and the major changes from ’14 to ’15 were replacing Billy Butler with Kendrys Morales and swapping out James Shields for Edinson Volquez.

        Point being…once you make it to the postseason, you just need to get hot.

        • Wait wait wait, you missed an entire season of actual baseball if you think that’s all the Royals did.

          Christ, aren’t the 2015 Royals the *ultimate* argument for going “all in”? You don’t actually think Moore dealt so many prospects for rentals because they won’t need them in a year when all their homegrown talent hits the free agent market, do you?

          • Well, the Royals did a both. They went “all in” in a few moves, but the bulk of their success during the WS winning campaign came from young guys breaking out (Moustakas, Cain) and retreads they signed having great years (Morales). Without that, that offense is far different.

            One could argue the 2015 Royals either way, they traded a depth of prospects for rentals but also were really good with retreads and young guys just actually having big years. Hell, Cueto’s only positive return on investment was the clutch playoff game.

            • Not in the context of the conversation we’re having, they didn’t.

              We’re talking about trading Cutch with time on the clock to restock the farm and extend the window of just being good enough to make the playoffs. They Royals not only held on to Alex Gordon, they traded a ton of quality prospects for short term rentals in his contract year. Literally the opposite of what we’re contemplating here with Cutch.

              And as for Cueto, that’s the *exact* reason you make that trade. Cueto did *exactly* what they got him for.

        • I see what you are saying, but….Billy Butler was not good…..Kendrys isn’t really a downgrade, and they added Rios in the outfield as well. With a team THAT young, they were only getting better, and they added Cueto midyear for the playoff run, regardless of how well he pitched, I don’t think they get there without him. Good defense, base running, and bunting doesn’t slump.

      • Melancon is still a Pirate because Huntington couldn’t get anything worthwhile for him. He was very, very obviously on the market all winter long.

        • I guess waiting for a closer to go down and for a team to come knocking in a pinch- could potentially give him extra value while he helps us in the 2 games out of 5 that we will actually be ahead…..

        • You are right on this one. Huntington’s winter did not go as planned. He couldn’t trade Melancon and Morse as he hoped and as a result we have a poor rotation. On top of that his payroll budget got slashed $10M because Nutting’s ski resorts did not open on schedule, and the owner had staggering cash losses there.

  • Nice work Tim. I hope we keep him it would be nice to see a bucco lifer.

  • Cutch has the wisdom beyond most of his peers (Harper, Pujols). He is set financially for his entire life, whether he makes $14,000,000 OR $24,000,000 per year. The relationships in his life are more important than adding to his already “1%” wealth.

    I find it very fitting that he wears number 21 in the accompanying photo. His moral compass aligns with that great number, in the history of this sport.

  • I wonder if Cutch is more than just a conglomeration of his skills. I’m old enough to remember how important Stargell and Clemente were to our WS teams. An ingredient missing from the 90-92 powerhouses. If we’re in the playoffs, I want Cutch captaining the team.

    • mental errors, lack of hustle throughout the year in the outfield, lack of running out balls to first base (before his knee issue)……..I don’t really want any young players learning from him honestly as much as i want him on my team. I’d prefer him not being the captain of anything, I’d prefer someone much more hardnosed, focused on detail and fundamentals leading my team- and I can’t say that we have anyone who even fits that bill currently quite honestly, and maybe that’s why we haven’t gotten by the wc game…..

      • I respect you and all, but this is absurd.

        You honestly dont want any young player learning from him? Yeah okay.

        Id love any young kid to learn from him. Yes, him and 99% of baseball players dont dead sprint grounders at times. Yes, he makes mistakes. But this dude is absolutely a person you want young kids to listen to and learn from. You cant get much more focused on details and fundamentals of hitting or solid routes to fly balls than Cutch.

        Also, we quickly forgot 2013 it seems. That time we won the WC game.

        • Y2J, I’d like to know if you work 100% eight hrs a day. You get breaks and lunch. Playing 162 game schedule full blast will ruin a ballplayer very quickly. Look how Bryce Harper had to slow down, and gets a MVP award.

          • Chuck- you are barking up the wrong tree on this one. I am smart enough to know that if I am ill, I am better off for my team and my clients if I take a day off rather than come in and screw something up. If Cutch needs a day off, give him a day off. Throwing to the wrong base, lollipopping tosses in, and jogging to first base aren’t things you want to invite from a leader or should ever make excuses for. In baseball, the only thing you have to do is play hard and people will respect you. at 80% health you can still play with 100% effort. Effort is never up for debate. Fans know the players whom get every last drop of talent out of themselves. Cutch for all his smiles and good will and natural talent, isn’t that guy whose head is always in the game, or who always gives gives 100% on the field. There is absolutely nothing in common between the way Bryce plays and Cutch plays. Watch some film.

        • No- I don’t. Cutch was a better “player” in 2013, but only because he hit better. He still didn’t hustle, and that’s what I don’t want young players learning. If you do….that’s your business. I don’t care about mistakes, physical errors, but mental errors and hustle- that stuff carries over to young players, and its unacceptable from a “captain” – you’d never see any of that from Derek Jeter.

          • I really dont care, since this is just silly.

            • kinda a pathetic response Luke. What is silly is that we are using talent as a synonym for leadership when nothing could be further from the truth

              • One can ignore talent completely and still realize Cutch is one leader of this team.

                I hope all young players respect their game like Cutch does, faults and all.

                • Timothy Wolfe
                  April 22, 2016 1:06 pm

                  Respects their game by taking plays off routinely in the past few years and showing resistance to move to a position which would be better for the team. Yep, thats a leader these days…..sad. Real sad. He isn’t the whole culprit and he’s a great guy for kids and the community, but a team leader he may be- but shouldn’t be.

      • You are joking, right ? If not,that is the most foolish criticism I have seen here in a while

        • No, I’m not joking and I’m not the only one to have brought this up in the past.

        • It’s not really a criticism. Its a reason that he isn’t the best “captain” or “leader” it does NOT take anything away from being a great player. But just like you wouldn’t want Hanley Ramirez or Alex Rodriguez leading your team, you wouldn’t want Cutch leading it either, just for different reasons

  • Cutch is such a bright, balanced guy. He’s got a lot of wisdom.

    I don’t see us doing an 8-10 year extension but maybe 3-4 years at a time. Or maybe an arrangement for shares in the team? He truly is becoming an iconic figure in Pittsburgh, and that has value to the team and to him.

    • Mr. Nutting is not giving shares of his team away.

      • It wouldn’t be giving the shares away, it would be non-cash compensation for services rendered. Like executives that are granted stock options.

        • The reality is that the Team Value of the Pirates according to Forbes has increased from $336 mil in 2012 to $900 mil in 2015. Was any player more responsible for that increased value? He has a Club Option for $14.5 in 2018 – increase that to $17; 2019 – $21; 2020 – $23; 2021 – $23; 2022 – $21 mil; 2023 at age 36 – $19 mil. That’s $124 mil – add a bonus of $6 mil for an even $130 mil.

        • I don’t think that a valid contract in MLB.

      • McCutcheon said that the numbers on a contract do NOT define the man.

    • I’ve actually been thinking along the same lines. Bringing equity into the deal would not only reward Cutch’s contribution to the increase in the team’s value, but would also make him a Bucco for life. Given his personality, he would make a wonderful front-man for ownership post retirement. Contol issues can be accomplished through various means, with the Nuttings having to decide whether they prefer owning 70-75% of a billion dollar team with Cutch,or 100% of a franchise that would likely suffer a significant drop in value should Cutch move on.

  • I will be shocked if we sign Cutch after his contract runs out (if not trade him before).

    And, to be honest, it may not be a good idea, other than sentimentality to keep him after age 32.

    • Everyone can talk the good talk but it is what it is…Cutch is a great guy but great guys still have to get paid somewhere near what they are worth. It’s just not realistic unless the Pirates would make it deep into the playoffs the rest of Cutch’s time and win a series and then he gives a great team deal and their financial structure has changed…even then the money and years could very well be injurious to the Pirates’ future. I think of Pujols and the Angels and about 50 other examples.

      • This discussion makes me think of the Bobby Bonilla annuity deal. Really long term deferred compensation. Are those types of contracts still permissible?

        • I’m guessing yes…Max Scherzer’s contract runs through 2021 and age 36. He’ll be getting paid by the Nats through 2028.

          • I think Heywards is the same…that stuff is a little nuts. Almost like a bloated 401k. Not sure why a team would think this is a good idea. Eventually in finance, things change. I do it all day…who would have thought 3 years ago oil and gas would bottom out like it has?

            • Pujols is in a similar boat…he’s under contract until 41…will be getting paid until 51. Coincidentally, his greatest earning season will be the age 41 year. He’s a 2 WAR player right now…I’m, actually, a little sad for the Angels when I think of what his production will be in six years. (…scary thought…he had the same OPS as Pedro Alvarez last season and his BA was .001 higher.)

              But, if I’m a player…I lap that up. You want to pay me a million a year for a decade after I retire? Hell yeah!!!

              • Davis is paid until he dies….I think. He sure will get paid long after he retires. Not a bad contract for the ball club.

            • It does make sense for the team, because of the time value of money: deferring 1 million to 12 years, due to the loss of value to inflation, ends up with that 1 million being worth barely 700K. Financially speaking it is a way for the player to ensure they don’t blow all their money and for the team, it actually costs them less long term.

              • That’s under current market conditions. While I admit, everything is on the up and up right now, things can change. Like I said, a bunch of frac guys thought they would have no problem making their truck payment in 2014. Things can change.

                • I get what you are saying, but what would we possibly be discussing other than current market conditions???

              • The way that inflation has been the last 20 yrs, a million will still be a million. Hell, you can put a million bucks in a savings account and not get 1% interest.

                • That is actually horribly false Chuck. So horribly false that I’m just going to shake my head and move on…. the current interest rate has nothing to do with the level of inflation over the past 20 years, and if you think it does- please do what my clients do, and hire someone to help manage your money and your retirement.

                • Try “google” ing cumulative inflation by decade. From 2000-2015 the cumulative inflation is 38.43%, and that is completely cutting off 1996-1999 where the average inflation per year in that decade was about 3.5%- That would put the total inflation over 20 years to be right at about 50%…… so a million would be $500,000

      • Andrew may play longer because of his size. He is not overly big, so caring his weight around would not be a problem. One other thing, if the National League gets the DH, he could play the field a couple of day and DH the others. I know he would be a very expensive part time fielder, but his hitting would make up for not playing the field every day. Just throwing this out there for Tim’s herd to think about something.

    • If we could extend the extension by 2 years for idk…..45 million- sure- but in terms of going down that 5-125 range at age 32, I’d rather have Austin Meadows and the 5 additional players we could pay for what we would be saving on Cutch

      • Yeah, but, if I’m Cutch…no way I’d take that. That’s a discount for two years, then he reenters the market at 34?

        My guess is he’s going to be looking for 6-8 years at and AAV of, at least, $25M.

        • I personally don’t think the Pirates should even open up talks until they see how he ages. The last thing you want to do is pay for his 2012-14 production and get someone on the downside of their career. Most guys peak between 28-32, but the Pirates already have him locked up for those last three years of that age range. Three seasons is a long time. There is a chance that he won’t be worth that much just based on his latest performance and what he has left in the tank.

          Think about someone like Dale Murphy and what he did after age 32 and wonder what would happen if you paid him for what he did from age 26-29. That would be a disaster for the Pirates if the same thing happened with McCutchen. Here’s his BR page, just to save anyone time http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/murphda05.shtml

          • I don’t disagree…at all.

            Well, sorta.

            I think if Cutch came to the Pirates tomorrow and asked for a two year extension @ 22/each (as the post suggested)…the team could and should jump at it. Even with the odds his numbers would drop off a cliff, the potential upside for grabbing him for five years at $17.15M AAV would be too tempting to pass up.

            On the other hand…if I’m Cutch…no way I make that offer. To be a free agent for the first time at 34? Nope. Were I his representation (and he’s probably glad I’m not), I’d say any extension would have to be a minimum of five years…with a hometown discount of $24M AAV…and play the face-of-the-franchise card for all that it’s worth.

            Realistically, I think the Pirates best route is to hold him for another season and a half, and, if his production holds steady, sell him to the highest bidder for a monster return…so long as one of Ramirez, Meadows, Osuna, or other is ready to step in. If his production dips…yeah, still sell, because a package of prospects is still preferable to a #30ish compensation draft pick.

            • I don’t think you’d ever want to sell cutch for prospects, but for a first or second year player that is a top 50 prospect along with another 100 prospect and another piece or two of the puzzle that can immediately replace all his value (from a WAR perspective when taking into account meadows stepping in) then, yeah- you do it. You cut cost hugely, you spread out your risk amongst 4 or 5 players, and you reload immediately without even taking a step back. That’s the way to do it.

              • My trade of dreams…which I think is entirely feasible…is Cutch to the Rangers for Profar, Mazara, and DeShields Jr.

                DeShields gives you the CF to replace Cutch. Better hitter? No…not even close. Better fielder? Yes. A nice bridge to Meadows? Absolutely.

                Profar? Better than Mercer in every aspect.

                Mazara? The #5 prospect in MLB and about as sure as sure gets.

                At the risk of being a homer, this deal makes total sense from both perspectives…the Rangers get an awesome player and, as division winners, it has the potential to put them over the top. The loss of DeShields doesn’t really matter as Cutch replaces him.

                The Pirates take a nice downgrade in CF, but drastically improve at SS…oh, and snatch a massive OF talent.

                If I’m NH…I take this fair trade in a second…also, if I’m NH…I have a much better head of hair than I have right now.

                • Add in Gallo as well. That’s not enough for Cutch. Look at the haul the Phillies got for Hamels. Cutch is more valuable than Hamels. Granted they play completely separate positions but it’s the same team involved in the trade so that’s where my basis for comparison lies.

                  • I might turn out to be totally wrong…but I’m very unimpressed by Gallo. The power is something to drool over…but I don’t see those K’s going away. Last season it was ~1:2 PA in the majors and 1:2.7 in the minors. For his career in the minors, it’s 1:3.

                    Using his MLB numbers last season…even if he gets measurably better…say 25%…you’re still looking at a guy who’s going to whiff 220+/season.

                    He seems very Mike Olt-ish to me. My gut feeling is the Rangers would be thrilled to use him as the centerpiece in any deal.

                    Again, I might be totally wrong…and, if so, I’ll eat that crow raw 🙂

                    I think my dream package in that deal is pretty fair to both sides…it’s been mentioned it might be a little light for the Pirates, but I’m extremely high on Mazara. As much as everyone drools over Meadows (and they should)…at the same age, Austin put up 7 HRs and a .781 OPS at A+/AA. While Mazara was at 14 HRs and an .808 at AA/AAA. That kid is going to be something special…

                  • Gallo’s SO % last season : AA, 40 ; AAA, 45, ; MLB, 53 %. Pedro Alvarez in AA was an uncomfortable 22 % for a comparison. And please, don’t bother telling me about his OBP and slugging %, SO rates like that are unsustainable.

                • Blaine- okay- now we are on the same page. I would take that trade yesterday….well assuming Profar is healthy and can play shortstop

                • Even the Rangers aren’t sure that Profar can throw yet, or if DeShields can repeat last season. And you want to trade one of the top 5 faces of MLB for them ??? If you would have mentioned Odor, I might have stopped laughing.

                  • Well, obviously, that hypothetical would depend on his health…but, my understanding isn’t that they’re not sure he can throw, but whether he can throw from short. From what I’ve read…the injury might bump him to second.

                    As for DeShields…I’m thinking he’ll be fine…he’ll never be a star player, but he’s not the centerpiece of the deal.

                    Not sure what a face a ‘face’ means…but…realistically, Cutch is not a top five player in MLB right now. He’s a great player, but not that great.

        • exactly why he’d be gone.

    • Yea. This may turn out to be similar to Walker, where the Pirates basically got the prime years out of Cutch.

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