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Saturday, December 10, 2022

Starling Marte Removed From Game With Concussion-like Symptoms

Starling Marte left tonight’s game in the top of the fifth inning after sliding head first into second base and hitting shortstop Yunel Escobar’s knee with his head. The Pittsburgh Pirates have announced that Marte was removed¬†because of “concussion-like symptoms.” He is currently being treated and evaluated.

UPDATE 10:46 PM: Clint Hurdle said that Marte was taken to the hospital for a CT scan. There was no word on the result of the scan. I’m guessing there won’t be any news on this front until tomorrow morning.

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Is Jaff Decker healthy and ready to come back to Pittsburgh for a few days??


Jaff, Dickerson, Rojas…plenty of options at AAA.


Only way a CT would be positive is if he had a subdural or epidural bleed, and even then would more likely be helpful in AM ( although if positive, you better do something asap). Or a skull fracture. ( also highly unlikely)

the great, great majority of head CT’s in these situations are negative

R Edwards

It is nice to be above .500 – its been a long time.

Good win tonight – nice to see Locke pitch a another good solid game. I hope Marte doesn’t miss any time – we need him in that #2 slot.

Two random comments, after tonight’s game:

(1) Tonight’s game illustrated why Save totals is one of the most overrated and meaningless stats in baseball. Melancon give up 3 hits and 2 runs in one inning of pitching, nearly blows the game, and yet gets a save for that effort. IMHO, if a closer gives up an ER, the Save opportunity gets negated.

(2) I would like to see Hurdle really do something outlandish, rogue, and unorthodox – by letting Watson start a 9th inning, after pitching the 8th. I know it sounds insane in today’s “robo/autopilot” style of managing, but what the heck!


The save stat is neither overrated nor meaningless. Negating a save if you still win just because the closer gave up an earned run makes absolutely zero sense. The criteria that constitutes a save opportunity is completely fair. Why would you ever say the game wasn’t saved if you win it? No one cares that your fantasy team’s ERA gets blown up when your closer allows earned runs.


Not to make excuses for Melancon, but he wasn’t getting calls in his sweet spot to RH batters. He painted the lower outside corner a couple of times and didn’t get a strike call. That said, we’re all expecting a DP and we get fly balls. Plus, the Rays used the same book – taking him to RF – that caused him problems late last year. He didn’t have swing-and-miss stuff tonight for sure.


With Josh Harrison’s positional flexibility i’m not sure they need to put him on the 7 day DL… of course that depends on the severity of the concussion.


No reason they shouldn’t though. If you can avoid being a player short, you avoid it.


He was dazed pretty good but that doesn’t guarantee a concussion. The symptoms are there but hopefully he just got his bell rung and not a concussion.


THAT is an arbitrary distinction.


Or a distinction without a difference.


I didn’t look like much, but I don’t know if he would’ve made it off the field on his own, he was so woozy.

C’mon back Jose.


I don’t think that Jose can come back!! If he were to come back, he would have to be added to the 40-man roster. Then, when Marte returns, the Pirates would be forced to release Tabata because they would not be allowed to outright Tabata to Indy for a 2nd time….. unless the Pirates had a Snider trade happening in the next 7 days…. (too much hypothesizing!)


Actually, they could for the reasons mentioned in the article. If Jose refuses, by default he is electing free agency and no longer gets paid. There doesn’t appear to be any limit to how many times a player can be outrighted. Of course he’d need to clear waivers a second time, but as he cleared the first time, I wouldn’t think he gets claimed.

“Per Article XX-D of the CBA, a player on an MLB 40-man roster who has been outrighted previously in his career and/or who has accrued at least three years of MLB Service Time can elect to be a free-agent if he is sent outright to the minors. The outrighted Article XX-D player can elect to be a free-agent immediately upon being outrighted, or he can accept the Outright Assignment and defer his option to elect free-agency until after the conclusion of the MLB regular season. However, a player eligible to be a free-agent if outrighted who accepts an Outright Assignment and defers his option to elect free-agency until after the conclusion of the MLB regular season forfeits his right to elect free-agency if he is added back to an MLB 40-man roster prior to the conclusion of the MLB regular season.

If a player eligible to be a free-agent if outrighted elects to be a free-agent immediately, his contract is terminated and he receives no termination pay. But if the Article XX-D player accepts the Outright Assignment and defers his right to be a free-agent until the conclusion of the MLB regular season, the player continues to get paid, receiving the balance of his salary through to the end of the season. And then if the outrighted Article XX-D player is not subsequently added back to an MLB 40-man roster prior to the conclusion of the MLB regular season, the player can elect free-agency anytime beginning on the day after the conclusion of the MLB regular season through October 15th.”


Sorry, I was thinking that Jose had 5 years of MLB service when I wrote that. If he had 5 years of service, he could refuse the assignment to Indy, force the Pirates to keep him on the major league roster or release him, only this time he would get paid the full amount of his contract either way, instead of losing it by not accepting the outright.

Boy, I’m learning a lot about all of these stupid rules in baseball contracts lately!!


I bet Neal is too, lol.

Jose had 3.018 years of service time entering the season.

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